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Are Girl Sports making girls violent?


I read more and more about girls being violent. There was an article in today's paper about two teenage sisters getting into a "fist fight" Can you imagine? Two girls in a fist fight??

More and more females are going to prison for violent crimes. In my day that was unheard of.

I have been giving a lot of thought to this problem and have come to the conclusion it is a result of all these girl sports programs.

In the 1970s Congress passed Title 9 which requires schools to have girls sports programs. Ever since these programs were introduced, girls have become more and more violent.

It was at this same time the courts allowed girls to play Little League Baseball. Unheard of in my day, completely unheard of. Girls played house and boys played sports. You would occasionally get a "tom boy" who wanted to play sports, but we knew what road they were heading down.

I think it is the untapping of Testosterone that at one time had been dormant in girls that has led to this violent behavior. When girls play sports, they release levels of testosterone which their female bodies are unable to handle.

I strongly believe the schools should immediately end all girls sports programs. Perhaps tennis and maybe even a very regulated basketball team for those "tom boys" I talked about, but any contact sports should be banned.

The wife thinks I am completely off my rocker on this, but I have studied the problem and have come to this conclusion.

The problem of violence among girls is becoming an epidemic which we must put an end to. Ban Girl Sports. Now!!

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I read more and more about girls being violent. There was an article in today's paper about two teenage sisters getting into a "fist fight" Can you imagine? Two girls in a fist fight??

More and more females are going to prison for violent crimes. In my day that was unheard of.

I have been giving a lot of thought to this problem and have come to the conclusion it is a result of all these girl sports programs.

In the 1970s Congress passed Title 9 which requires schools to have girls sports programs. Ever since these programs were introduced, girls have become more and more violent.

It was at this same time the courts allowed girls to play Little League Baseball. Unheard of in my day, completely unheard of. Girls played house and boys played sports. You would occasionally get a "tom boy" who wanted to play sports, but we knew what road they were heading down.

I think it is the untapping of Testosterone that at one time had been dormant in girls that has led to this violent behavior. When girls play sports, they release levels of testosterone which their female bodies are unable to handle.

I strongly believe the schools should immediately end all girls sports programs. Perhaps tennis and maybe even a very regulated basketball team for those "tom boys" I talked about, but any contact sports should be banned.

The wife thinks I am completely off my rocker on this, but I have studied the problem and have come to this conclusion.

The problem of violence among girls is becoming an epidemic which we must put an end to. Ban Girl Sports. Now!!



This is so ignorant, I feel my I.Q. going down just reading it. Yes, girls have a little testosterone in their physiological make-up--HOWEVER, sports would cause endorphins ("feel-good" hormones) to become more active. Being physically active does not promote more testosterone in females. x.x Chemical imbalances do occur, but diet and medications seems more likely to influence that.
You state that since the 1970's, girls have become more and more violent and have been pushed into jail. Are you aware that this is a fictitious statement--on several grounds? There are a lot of influencing factors that could lead to female violence--before and during the 70's, segregation ended, the divorce rate started increasing, and prayer in public school ended. In the past half-century, a lot of changes have been made in society--and saying that ONLY because of sports we have this current problem is nothing short of stupidity. To put it simply--you don't know what you're talking about, Magoo. If you have such conclusive evidence, where is it? Where are the statistics? Have you interviewed girls and asked them what drives them to violence? I'm sure NONE of them would say that sports led them to violence.


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Re: Are Girl Sports making girls violent?


I am saying that Girl Sports is ONE of the reasons Girls are becoming more violent.

There are certainly other factors, but this is one situation we can eliminate immediately. Stop girl sports and you end the releasing of testosterone.

Girls were not violent in my day. They did not knock people down at firework events and start kicking them like we saw at Hart Plaza a few years ago.

Girls did not form gangs. They may have been silly enough to have boyfriends in gangs, but they certainly were not in gangs.

Take a long hard look. Since the 1970s girl violence has increased significanly. It went from almost nothing to a major issue.

Can we truthfully say Title Nine had nothing to do with it? Can we truthfully say the "feminist" movement had nothing to do with it.

We must explain it somehow. I say it is the proliferation of girl sports and the femi-nazi movement that has caused this problem.

Girls and girls. When they try to become boys we have a very big problem. Testosterone was meant for boys. The male body is able to handle testosterone, not the female body.

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Women don't spontaneously get testosterone increases in their body, as I stated before. Naturally, women have a slight amount. Chemical imbalances do not occur as a result of sports, nor do they result as a part of the feminist movement. Could girls be becoming more violent because of sports? Maybe a little bit. But what about boys? It's all right for boys to be violent just because they were back in your day?
Here's a better suggestion: if we want to cut back on violence, let's just cut out the sports programs entirely, save for city-funded programs. An accomplished athlete has never come out of Lincoln Park High School, but the arts department is churning out music majors and vocalists, including Laura Rodriguez (she often sang the National Anthem at football games the past few years), who, last time I checked, was going to school in New York to pursue singing.
As far as your belief that girls were never violent back in your day, I'm sure they were. However, the media was restricted and censored; bad news tended to get swept up and disposed of. A lot probably happened right under your nose.


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The media was not censored in my day. If two girls got into a fist fight it not only would have made the newspaper, it would have made the front page.

Take a look at crime statistics for the past 50 years and tell me girls are not becoming more violent.

Talk to a older police officer and he will tell you that girls are certainly becoming more and more violent all the time.

I tell you these girl sports are at the root of it.


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Switching gears to talk about sex hormones, Dr Goodwin interviews Dr. James McBride Dabbs, a Professor of Psychology and the head of the Social/Cognitive Psychology Program at Georgia State University. Along with his wife Mary Godwin Dabbs, Dr. Dabbs wrote Heroes, Rogues and Lovers: Testosterone and Behavior.

Testosterone is widespread in animals and plants, but in people it happens to be linked to sex. Dr. Dabbs has looked at testosterone levels in more than eight thousand individuals and found some interesting correlations between testosterone and behavior. According to his research, high testosterone men and women are bolder, more focused, and more rambunctious. Although most people fall into a middle range, very high testosterone levels can start to be detrimental.

The very high testosterone male is likely to be lean and balding, oriented toward action rather than contemplation, combative and a bit wild; he also has a high libido, doesn’t smile much, tends not to live as long and may be unemployed. Dr. Dabbs also found a correlation between high testosterone and divorce. Married men have the lowest levels of testosterone, single men and divorced men who are remarried fall in the middle, and divorced men have the highest levels.

Dr. Dabbs found similar correlations in women. For example, in both sexes, trial lawyers have higher testosterone levels than other kinds of lawyers. High testosterone women also engage in more extra-marital sex, smile less than low testosterone women, and are likely to have more presence and a stronger handshake. While testosterone levels in men and women don’t overlap, the effects of testosterone on each sex are equally great. That is, there is just as much difference between a high and a low testosterone woman as there is between a high and a low testosterone man.

Dr. Dabbs continues by saying that both socialization and hormones shape the way we are - it’s not just one or the other. With proper socialization, high testosterone can work to a person’s benefit, as tends to be the case with trial lawyers and actors.

Evolutionarily, moderately high testosterone would have been an advantage for males. In hunter-gatherer days, success was measured by combat, and one needs boldness and focus to win fights. In modern society, however, there are different standards of success, and high testosterone men don’t have the same advantages. Often, the highest testosterone men are now unemployed.


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Women who commit violent crimes and show aggressive dominance in prison are more likely to have high levels of testosterone than other female inmates. The study shows that testosterone in females has much the same effect as it has in males. In the context of prison, women are more dominant and tended to have committed violent crimes.


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