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Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
Like the ever ready bunny...this issue just keeps going, and going, and going.... Why is the Media Policy that is adopted not being followed? Why is our City Attorney being a smart alec about this? This is NOTHING to get smarty about. Long time LP businesses are in trouble and our city officials are being smarty butts? I hope someone gets sanctioned for not following the media policy -- this is why we need one.
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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What aspect of the policy are you saying wasn't followed? |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
I also just re-read it and couldn't find anything of the city attorney that I would deem smart alec. Which statements do you find offensive? |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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This specifcially but overall the entire issue has been handled poorly and instead of our City Officials at least pretending to be supportive of the loss of income these businesses are experiencing, we have rogue officials being short and downright rude when pressed about this project. Case in point is Mayor Brown's rudeness to the people at the podium about the parking. Case in point is the the nonchalant attitude (like in the article) towards long term businesses. Whether or not there were one or many meetings...this does not negate the fact that long term businesses are in trouble as a direct result of this project. The way this is being handled in the past and currently is not showing current or potential new businesses that Lincoln Park cares and supports their businesses. If our city officials (some of them) can be so callus with business owners that have been here for years..... what would potential new business owners think? |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
I was so delited to see Felumena Wilson mentioned in the article. She and her husband are such nice young people. I was good friends with her in-laws though I have not seen them in almost 30 years. Her father in law was a washer repairman at Wards. When they eliminated the washer repair people they made him a tv repairman. He told them he didn't know the first thing about tv's. Wards told him not to worry, he could "learn on the job" They gave him a crash course. He would then go to people's homes and look at the television to be repaired. If it wasn't something simple he could repair, he would have to bring it back to the shop. Do they even have tv repairmen coming to the house anymore? Most televisions are so inexpensive I doubt it is worth getting most repaired. And most people no longer have the heavy console tv's, so unless they have a Big Screen television it is easier to bring the television to the shop. I will have to stop by The Park some time when Felumena is on duty and see how her in-laws are doing.
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
I, too, am worried about how our city is perceived as working with businesses (and, in fact, the residents). Mark has stated over and over again that we are not anti-business/resident. But, when articles like this show up in the press (whether true or embelished), those reading the article may choose to move on to another city. This is eventually dangerous for our city's prosperity! (Deep in the back of my mind, I keep wonderinf: What happens if these condos do not sell? Or if they sell, and the owners change their minds after a short period of time--and the condos remain empty for a time. It will be too late then to realize that we made the wrong move. We'll just have ended up with even more empty/vacant buildings that no one wants.) |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
I still can't get over the fact that the DDA sold this property for $1.00 to Joseph Daly. He turned around and sold it for $100,000! No wonder he can't be reached for comment. Someone from the DDA should answer to the citizens for this. This article claims that it was sold without public notice. Is this true? To the best of my knowledge, Mr. Tamsen was and is the attorney for the DDA. Has anyone questioned Mr. Tamsen on this? Robin, or anyone, who is accountable for this? Can anyone fill me in on how this transaction happened?
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
Let's be fair to the DDA. Selling the property for $1.00 was not a bad move. They were trying to create development in this long abandoned area. They got slickered. Plain and simple. If anyone is to blame it would be the lawyer for the DDA, he should have known better. For the most part the DDA are local businessmen who were trying to do what was best for the city. Their lawyer let them down. The lawyer should have placed a clause which restricted the developer from re-selling the land. There should have been a stipulation that required the developer to develop the land for a specific purpose. If the failed to do so, the land would return to the DDA. Do not blame the Businessmen for trying to generate development. Blame their lawyer. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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Magoo, did I not say Mr. Tamsen? That was the point. Please re-read the post. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
Actually, as I recall, our DDA did not have an attorney when the parking lot was sold to Joe Daly. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
hmmm..... I thought we went over this before. Didn't someone say he was? I'll go back and check. Someone in the legal profession had to do the papework. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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They meaning Wards? If so, then I have to tell you Wards went out of business.
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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I know that Tamsen became the DDA attorney when Sochocki was Mayor and that the parking lot was also sold when Sochocki was mayor. Prior to that the DDA did not have an attorney. I remember well what transpired with the previous developer, going to bid for condo developers etc. but don't recall Tamsen being part of it. I could be wrong though. |
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Yep, but it isn't cost effective for the homeowner. Fred used to do VCR/TV repairs prior to computers. Most of the time it is cheaper to replace the tv than fix it. Fred's grandfather used to have a Lincoln Park tv repair business called Tom's TV which I think would of been the mid-1950's. It was on Southfield and Applewood. I think it is a smoke shop now. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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There had to be an attorney involved in the process. When was the property sold for $1.00? I remember reading Disanto was questioning this issue recently. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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I'm sure that the DDA utilized the City Attorney prior to having their own attorney. However, Bill Hatley is an attorney and he was running the DDA back then. As I recall the idea of the DDA having their own attorney was Mayor Sochocki's idea. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
Leslie, would that be Ed Z.? |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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How could the DDA have entered any type of transaction without an attorney? If they sold this parcel for $1.00 without an attorney, then shame on them. If the City Attorney was acting as the DDA Attorney, then shame on him. He should have ensured the property could not be resold at a substantial profit. |
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
The Parks customers are in the other 2 restaurants .they have left the Park years ago . The first one opened over 4 years ago and now the Mexican restaurant is open has made enough to make improvements to the outside already. He is blaming the condo's for his lack of business what a joke. No one can force someone to eat at his place if they get better prices and food down the street. People stopped going in there for what he did to his neighbors with the last developer. He wants the city to pay for his bad business decisions . He has competition and can't deal with it. There is no place for DPS workers to park their equipment and go in for lunch. The lot across Arlington is almost always half full with 10-15 cars from ElPaso the restaurant in the middle of the block has 8-12 all the time even more on Sunday .I counted 55 cars on a Sunday evening and only !bar and the other restaurant were open.
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Re: Condo Project Park Resturant; DDA In the Detroit Free Press
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Yeppo. |
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