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Appeal to Councilwoman Brady


I am asking you again as I did several times last week and never got an answer from you: Do you plan to apologize to LP taxpayers because you made excessive calls on your city-issued cell phone that resulted in hundreds and hundreds of dollars in bills? Do you plan to pay any of the money back to the city? Can you admit you made a mistake? I thank you.


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I believe she made her case already during a live council meeting with two seperate news crews there. She contended that her calls were not excessive...that they were in line with her duty as a DPS liason. Proof was submitted, that evening, that calls to the DPS liason FAR EXCEED calls to any other liason. I have posted rational behind the call volume, and how it came to be that her phone bills were so high. Since you decided to start yet ANOTHER topic covering the same issue (instead of bumping one of the several topics you've already started on the matter...or one of the several that were started months ago), allow me to post this again:

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  • The only "personal" call that could be quasi-verified were the 200 calls made to her boyfriend (at the time) over a twelve-month period.
  • 200 calls over 12 months works out to be 16.6667 calls per month. For sake of argument, we'll call it 17.
  • Her boyfriend at the time was a DPS supervisor. So even though you can deduce there was a personal relationship, you cannot deduce that they were personal calls.
  • No other phone numbers could be identified as being personal in nature.
  • I don't recall the exact figures, but Councilman Murphy has already clearly demonstrated PROOF that the DPS liason (which would be Val Brady) recieves the lions share of calls from citizens. It is something like 3 or 4 times the volume of the the next highest council member.
  • Brady has already broken it all down: If you were to break down all of the personal calls that she made on her phone (and assume that every call made to her boyfriend the DPS supervisor), it would only amount to $84 in overages. She even offered to pay it.
  • Nobody ever mentioned bringing Brady's cell phone bill to her attention. Patricia Lulko, after the third consecutive month of overages, went to Mayor Brown with her concern. Nobody talked to Brady. Instead, the increased her plan minutes from 500 minutes a month to 1000. This allowed her to conduct business for 50 minuters per day (up from 25 minutes per day). Anything in excess of 50 minutes per day was charged 40 cents per minute.
  • Do the math:
    • $1,861.92 over 7 months (the figures FOIA'd by The News-Herald) works out to average $265.98 a month.
    • Tom Murphy's bill never exceeded $20 a month (because he never really used the phone), so I'm going to assume $20 is the flat rate.
    • When Val's plan was increased from 500 to 1000 minutes, we'll assume the $20 flat rate doubled to $40.
    • Using this data, this would suggest that Val's monthly average bill was over by about $226.
    • At 40 cents per minute, this means that she was using an average of 565 minutes more than she was alotted.
    • 565 minutes divided by 20 days (the number of business days in a month) works out to about 28 extra minutes per day.
    • This would mean that Val Brady used her phone for one hour and 18 minutes each business day to conduct business as a DPS liason...who recieves as much as three times the call volume as the next council member.
The fact that calls were made and recieved during off peak hours (evenings and weekends) is completely irrelevent...as they were included free of charge with the plan. In order to make an objective case, you must only include the calls that were subject to charge...and this narrows it all down to calls recieved during the week, during peek minute times.

Because Val used her phone for a little over an hour a day, her bills were high. They weren't high because she took advantage of the phone to call of her best friends. Even if she did, it cannot be proven unless someone calls EVERY SINGLE NUMBER on her phone bills. To date, nobody has...even though they still freely toss around accusations.

Val has already stated on several occassions that these charges are legitimate.


Your questions have already been answered. She has already defended her call volume and denied the claims that she misused her cell phone...so that renders the rest of your demands useless.

Please...go back and read all of the facts before you come here demanding things from people.

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Nothing to say, Jujitsu? Are you conceding? Or merely ignoring the facts again?


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He/she is looking for something else to gripe about beings you proved them wrong.

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I figured that much. Though I doubt I'm going to have a hard time refuting any of their claims...based on what I've seen of their arguments so far.

My twelve-year old brother puts up a more worthy debate than this jujitsu person.


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or maybe there's a Mustang or an F150 that needs a tail light or something.


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I am asking you again as I did several times last week and never got an answer from you: Do you plan to apologize to LP taxpayers because you made excessive calls on your city-issued cell phone that resulted in hundreds and hundreds of dollars in bills? Do you plan to pay any of the money back to the city? Can you admit you made a mistake? I thank you.


Councilwoman Brady, you have chosen to ignore my questions to you. You have yet to put forth any response whatsoever. Having this character, VS, who apparently is your official spokesperson (just as he is his mother's official spokesperson) does not cut it. I, as a taxpaying citizen of LP, have asked you a question. I'd like a response even if all you're going to say is "I don't want to respond". Elected officials too often forget whose votes got them in office.


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Elected officials too often forget whose votes got them in office.


Are you saying you voted for Brady?


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I wasn't saying either way in my previous comment.
Is that a question you'd like me to answer?


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No, I honestly could care less, but with the bold letters and constantly repeating yourself it's looking like your intentionally badgering her. I can understand why she wouldn't respond to your questions. It's one thing if you ask a question and bump it to the top, it's another when you keep after it like you are.


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No, I honestly could care less, but with the bold letters and constantly repeating yourself it's looking like your intentionally badgering her. I can understand why she wouldn't respond to your questions. It's one thing if you ask a question and bump it to the top, it's another when you keep after it like you are.


You know what, Robbie, I have failed to get her attention. Regardless of whether normal font size or bold lettering is used to capture Brady's attention, she has / is / and most likely will continue to disregard my straightforward question. Robbie, consider my efforts to get an elected official to answer my question "intentionally badgering" if you like. And, please save your defense of her for someone else.


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And, please save your defense of her for someone else.


No, not while there are people that cannot wait patiently for an answer and have to resort to badgering. No. I've never stood for it before and won't now.


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You know what, Robbie, I have failed to get her attention. Regardless of whether normal font size or bold lettering is used to capture Brady's attention, she has / is / and most likely will continue to disregard my straightforward question. Robbie, consider my efforts to get an elected official to answer my question "intentionally badgering" if you like. And, please save your defense of her for someone else.


the question was answered so move on i have agree with you alot but i cant on this


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Councilwoman Brady, you have chosen to ignore my questions to you. You have yet to put forth any response whatsoever. Having this character, VS, who apparently is your official spokesperson (just as he is his mother's official spokesperson) does not cut it. I, as a taxpaying citizen of LP, have asked you a question. I'd like a response even if all you're going to say is "I don't want to respond". Elected officials too often forget whose votes got them in office.


Like I said, she's already answered these questions (and others, including myself, have reiterated her responses several times). How many times would you like an elected official to respond to you?

As a voting citizen, I for one, am satisfied with the responses she gave several months ago.

Nobody owes you anything, jujitsu...especially with the kind of attitude you exhibit around here.

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I have answered these questions publicly here and at an open council meeting.

If you feel as strongly as you appear to feel regarding the cell phone matter, I would think that during those times you would have taken notice.

As for any additional action to be taken by me, I would not anticipate it. It took me quite some time to address such nasty politics to begin with.

As to the demanding way you have chosen to approach me, it's really not necessary and I am sure you knew your answer before began posting so aggressively.

If my intentions were to apologize or pay the city for working, I think I would have done that many moons ago.


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Okay, now that Valerie Brady has responded I believe this will be the end of this.


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Finally. Thank you for a direct response. There are still some questions that have been left not addressed or answered, but I will drop trying to pursue answers. As far as me "posting so aggressively", if you had responded to my initial inquiries a week or two ago perhaps my recent posts may not have seemed so aggressive. I haven't a clue why it would you this long to finally respond considering you've been posting on other topics. I thank you anyway.


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Re: Appeal to Councilwoman Brady


Well Jujitsu there you have it, you may or may not agree with it, but there it is, I'll bet you would never get Mr. Vaslo to come out here and ansewer any type of question. Val did what she felt was right, and you have to either accept it or not, if you don't I'll let you in on a big secret just between you and I ........hang on I am waiting for everyone to leave the room..........Tic toc tic toc tic toc..........Go on everyone leave I wanna tell Jujitsu something.....no evesdropping............go on VS you sneaky $#^&......... Ok Jujitsu I think we are all alone now ......Here is a little secret just between you and I , you see they have this thing that is coming up in a few months.....SSHHHH now don't tell anyone..... its called an ELECTION..... sshhh........thats right an ELECTION ......and you know what you can do at that ELECTION?????? You can actually go in and vote for people you like and people you support........thus in effect voting against people you don't like........Radical isn't it ....I know I couldn't beleive it myself the first time I was told about it ........but remember now keep this between you and I.....O.K!!! I hope you can keep this secret I 'll be really upset if I have to stand in line to vote, and since you are the only one I have shared this with I'll know it was you!!!! So don't burn me dude!!!


Rocky

Remeber Jusjitsu get out and vote and get your friends out to vote even if you are not sucessfull you can feel good knowing you did what you could.


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