My gut tells me that Murphy and Brady putting together a slate is not a good idea. I think it will backfire on them. Oftentimes a slate is perceived as a group of individuals who don't feel that have the ability to be re-elected as stand-alone candidates. Myers, Lemuel are unknowns to the average Lincoln Parker. McPartlin isn't known to the average Lincoln Parker either. Just because these guys teamed up with a slate doesn't mean they're qualified and it doesn't mean that they will continuously vote the same as Murphy and Brady. And, if they are all elected, and all of them vote identically, then that is a scary thought too. We want individuals with independent minds making well-thought-out decisions, not someone who has to go along with their slate. I haven't figured out if the unknowns are going to be hurt by being hitched up to Murphy/Brady or Murphy/Brady will get hurt by hitching up with a slate of unknowns. JMHO, I think Brady is going to get hammered on the cell phone disaster and Murphy will get hammered on his periodic outbursts such as when he said Mario was part of Duchane's harem.
A slate is not a good thing.

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I agree. I appreciate the actual idea of standing up against "the machine", but I'm not sure a slate is a good idea.

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TheGirlNextDoor (08-16-05)

It will be even more interesting come endorsement time. I have NO doubt that the city unions will endorse Brady and Murphy. They're those people's kind of politicians. But what if they don't endorse the others on the slate? A slate running, but only half endorsed here and half endorsed there? That will be kind of odd.

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Anytime you can get people working together for a common good, you have improved over a situation where everyone is pulling against each other to achieve their own personal objective! The people on the True Blue team think alike and have worked togerther because they respect each other and they realize that making progress in our city means moving in the same direction!

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The thinking alike part kinda troubles me. I like the idea of different minds approaching problems and issues. That's how you get a variety of ideas and suggestions. If everyone thinks the same, why even have a council. Elect one of you as the dictator and be done with it.

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Wolverine, that is like saying that people who drive on a highway shouldn't have the same mindset and therefore it is ok if some go north on the northbound I 75 while others in the same lane, or on the same side of the highway, may decide to go south!

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After the Aug 08 meeting and the statement DPS does not milk Lincoln Park tax dollars it the only milks overtime on CDBG money . Who can vote for anyone that is endorsed by the DPS. They gave us Vaslo, Brady and Higgins. We have found out they have run the department like dinosaurs are still roaming the earth. Slates are a bad idea DiSanto does not rely on a slate never has . Brown says he is not for running on a slate.


There are a lot of seniors on fixed income ,single working moms raising kids and recieving assistance to make endsmeet ,and 2 parent families both working so they don't loose their home to the county. They need people on the council to work for them . Not well paid city employees with full benefits and overtime, who want more at the expense of the steelworker with no job no pension,no insurance, the senior citizen,2parent families and single moms.

We don't need union representatives on the council . We must have people Who represent all the residents. If you want to see recievership elect people that want the Old System,the old ways , the giveaways

ROCKY asked the mayor before about the "Machine " Brown said there wasn't any. He may have lied it may be operating in the city Departments and the taxpayers are giving them a paycheckand a retirement and benefits they will never have themselves.

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Wolverine (08-16-05)

Now that's just a crazy analogy. That's like saying the rest of the council comes to the meetings naked and you and Brady are the only ones who come clothed.

The other five members aren't totally going the wrong way, as your analogy about going in the opposite direction on the freeway. It's just that their ideas don't jive with yours. Which is fine ... a difference of opinion is what sparks good debate. And that's why, in my opinion, it's good to have people who don't all think alike.

Get along, be friends, etc, fine. But all of you thinking alike is kinda crazy.

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There are a lot of seniors on fixed income ,single working moms raising kids and recieving assistance to make endsmeet ,and 2 parent families both working so they don't loose their home to the county. They need people on the council to work for them . Not well paid city employees with full benefits and overtime, who want more at the expense of the steelworker with no job no pension,no insurance, the senior citizen,2parent families and single moms.

We don't need union representatives on the council . We must have people Who represent all the residents.


m..I am pretty certain I am a single working mom. And as a former city employee who received NO OVERTIME or BENEFITS and surely was not well paid. So I would be very comfortable in fact that I could easily represent our families that are working hard to just make ends meet, to make a house payment, to pay a sitter, budgeting to buy school clothes etc.

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People stated about the running on a slate and if they are "qualified". What exactly does that mean and where do I go to get "qualified". I disagree with that statement. While an education be it public or higher might be a plus, "common sense" is what alot of people need. Brady/Murphy have always demonstrated a genuine interest in this City's future. Look at the surroundig communities:

Southgate: Consistent new construction i.e. (Buffalo
Wild Wings, ESPN ZONE, Panera d, etc)

Allen Park: Independence Market

Taylor: New home contruction, 2 golf courses, $MILLION
DOLLAR HOMES$,

Lincoln Park: a "Brown" zone which increases yearly, a
condo development that is indefinite, and a
system of a goverment that at time
resembles a comedy show.

L.P. needs people who will fight the norm, because the "norm" is what has brought us where we are today. L.P. is a proud, and used to be a somewhat tight knit community. Today we are divided, and that is when we become weak and at the mercy of those who can control us.
People speak of OVERPAID employee's, milking the system, or complaniing about being on assistance and having trouble making ends meet.
I ask you this, those that are on "assistance":
Were they born in the U.S.? If so, then THEY were entitled and offered an education PAID for by their parents if they owned a home or by someonelse if their parents didn't. Either way they had the oppurtunity to receive a higher education. THEY chose to squander their opportunity to better themselves, NOT ME. Life is full of choices, we make hundreds of choices a day, unfortunately the one's we make when were younger have a longer lasting effect.

Furthermore, people criticize those people (City Employee's) who come to work day in day out and put in an honest days work while you/they sit and watch Jerry Springer!. I like to think we ALL pride ourselves by our work and the quality of such work. It's easy to pass judgement when you haven't walked a day in their shoes.

I will not critize the current elected officials I just ask everyone to evaluate those who STOOD their ground, and those who in my opinion mirrored the "Cowardly Lion".

Goverment, be it local, or national has it's place, give to much power to either and your voice is that of a tree falling in the woods...

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Robin (08-17-05)

I agree with Wolverine: "Elect one of you as the dictator and be done with it."
Growth and progress are more likely to occur when a group of individuals who can think for themselves to start with can hammer out ideas, issues, problems, etc. and make sound decisions. Not when a group of clones all think alike.
Residents want independent thinkers. Residents want councilmembers who can analyze, churn ideas, intelligently disseminate information, and not be worried about agreeing with the next councilmember.
Just because the current council seems to be divided (Murphy/Brady against the rest), the bottom line is that they're all grown-ups and should have the skills to work things out, how to consense, how to negotiate, how to get along.
It just strikes me that Murphy/Brady get mad when things don't go their way so now they've buddied up with a few unknowns (safety in numbers, I suppose) to form a slate
that'll give them the sense of power and control.
Residents sometimes agree with one councilperson, sometimes they agree with another. Those positions constantly change based on the subject or issue at hand. If the slate were to be elected and plan to serve with the same mindset, they will rub many residents the wrong way much of the time. There will be many residents who do not agree with the slate's way of thinking. The slate needs to consider this.

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I do not vote for someone because their name is on a slate.

I do not vote for someone because they attend the same church I attend. I do not vote for someone because they are representing a particular political party. I do not vote for someone because they happen to have a lot of signs posted around the city.

I look at each candidate individually. I find out as much as I can and decide if I wish to vote for that person.

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MINDVTR (08-17-05), Veritas Scriptor (08-17-05)

If you vote for one, you vote for all since they all have the identical mindset. If the slate gets voted in its entirety (heaven forbid) they can rightly be referred to as the "Stepford Council".

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Be not afraid: Their names will appear seperately on the ballot.

I personally don't care one way or the other, slate or no slate. I don't understand why this would be anyones concern, really.

Vote as you will, I agree with DonDiego and will add that endorcements do not alter my vote either.

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I agree, some endorsements like union endorsements don't mean squat. Some unions think they are so almighty powerful but they have the clout of bird doo doo.

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We presently have a Stepford Council with Brown, Kandes and Vaslo voting like they are joined at the hip.

I do not like the idea of a slate. I may vote for one or all of the candidates on the slate. But it would be based on candidate by candidate, not a fancy slogan.

It should not be long before the candidates start pounding the pavement and handing out their literature. I am looking forward to Vaslo's pamphlets. I wonder if he will use the picture of himself in his brand new, never been used overalls, standing in front of an eight foot hole trying to plant a one foot tree?

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MINDVTR (08-17-05)

I think you're right Don, they will be out soon meeting and greeting. I see more and more signs popping up, I see Jim R. even joined the site here.

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The only time a Slate worked for a city . Orville Hubbard in Dearborn.
He spoke they all said yes sir. If any citizen had to complain twice someone got demoted or fired, If a problem was ignored he gave the solution and a time limit for completion. Taxpayers hapiness was goal of every employee . He was a funny guy scare the **** out of you and then ask you how your wife or mom was or kids. He knew a lot off people and always remembered something about each one ,or his assistant would brief him . he knew the other half of the people and kept good notes.

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Kudos to Orville! You're right, he ruled Dearborn with an iron fist and he got results. Mayor Daley of Chicago was similar.

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