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Well, as I have been saying for a long time the News Herald will once again, be doing their part to influence our election in Lincoln Park. We can all count on that.
Their first article, soon to come, will go after the so called slate of candidates, with innuendos about the slate trying to take over our city. I have no doubt that whatever is written will somehow or in some way put the slate in some kind of negative light. Of course, none of their articles would be complete without an ignorant comment from Vaslo.
I'm sure over the course of the election season we will also see articles, fictitious letters to the editor, and/or questions to the candidates designed to hurt certain candidates and help others. This newspaper is as transparent as I've ever seen and more predicable than the weather.
I will also predict we won't see any on their boy Vaslo.
We can expect to see some more print on Brady's cell bill, who is working and who isn't, who was demoted, etc...etc.
What ashame they don't have any competition that would provide us with some objective reporting. IMHO all we get are the results of strategies worked out with certain members of the council. A real collaborative effort if you will.
What a pathetic example and poor excuse for a newspaper.
As a citizen and registered voter of LP, I dispise this trash of a newspaper attempting to influence my vote with scurred articles I beleive, are cooked up in back rooms and offices. The only thing this newspaper is useful for is potty training puppies.


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Thank you, Primo, for writing the truth. If there is ever a paper with back room deals, it's the News Herald.


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I think the Enquirer and The Star have a better standing in the community than the NH does.

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The News Herald has never printed the truth in my story. They haven't had the facts right yet!

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Well, as I have been saying for a long time the News Herald will once again, be doing their part to influence our election in Lincoln Park. We can all count on that.
Their first article, soon to come, will go after the so called slate of candidates, with innuendos about the slate trying to take over our city. I have no doubt that whatever is written will somehow or in some way put the slate in some kind of negative light. Of course, none of their articles would be complete without an ignorant comment from Vaslo.
I'm sure over the course of the election season we will also see articles, fictitious letters to the editor, and/or questions to the candidates designed to hurt certain candidates and help others. This newspaper is as transparent as I've ever seen and more predicable than the weather.
I will also predict we won't see any on their boy Vaslo.
We can expect to see some more print on Brady's cell bill, who is working and who isn't, who was demoted, etc...etc.
What ashame they don't have any competition that would provide us with some objective reporting. IMHO all we get are the results of strategies worked out with certain members of the council. A real collaborative effort if you will.
What a pathetic example and poor excuse for a newspaper.
As a citizen and registered voter of LP, I dispise this trash of a newspaper attempting to influence my vote with scurred articles I beleive, are cooked up in back rooms and offices. The only thing this newspaper is useful for is potty training puppies.


well the thing i dont like is i wish each council member had there own mind and vote how they feel not how someone else does. Like whatever Brady wants is what Murphy wants or what ever Valso Brown or Kandes whats is how the vote. you all know i like Kandes and think he is great for our city but that is one of his down falls. as far as Mario and Mike they vote how they feel and i have to give them kudos on that that is how it should be.


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well the thing i dont like is i wish each council member had there own mind and vote how they feel not how someone else does. Like whatever Brady wants is what Murphy wants or what ever Valso Brown or Kandes whats is how the vote. you all know i like Kandes and think he is great for our city but that is one of his down falls. as far as Mario and Mike they vote how they feel and i have to give them kudos on that that is how it should be.
Unfortunately getting things done in a political setting requires you to make compromises with other items in order to get what you feel is important done. Sometimes you have to make alliances that go against your feelings in order to accomplish other things that are meaningful.

It would be nice if everyone could be an individual but very little would get done if no one were willing to compromise.

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that is true but vote from your heart not another council members heart let them speak for themselfs and vote the way they want.


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Southside, you have it all wrong! Valerie Brady and I THINK alike, that is why we see things about the same way and vote in a similar matter! We need more people on our council who have the same values and want to achieve the same good results. A half dozen people going their separate ways will never accomplish anything but the arguing you see so many times in our city! I am working with a "TEAM" of people who want to ACHIEVE the goals and objectives that I want to see accomplished in our city! That is a GOOD thing! When a TEAM of like minded people is elected and things finally get done, then the voters can make a decision as to weather what was done was worthwhile. If the acomplishments were worthwhile, re-elect these people who finally got something done! If the voters do not appreciate what was accomplished, let them vote the team out!
The voters are simply spinning their wheels a lot of the time when the elect people who they feel are good, but they HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON, and are all going their own way!


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"Thinking alike" is not necessarily good. Why would a politician want his constituents to think he is a clone? Did you disagree with Brady when the News-Herald FOIA'd her cell phone bills and it was determined that she racked up thousands in personal calls on a city-issued cell phone? Did you tell her what she did was wrong or did you turn your cheek and hope it would go away?


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I think Lupin said it best. In politics, whether at the local, state, or
federal level alliances are very often formed to get certain legislation passed.
I have had the opportunity to attend other city's council meetings and generally speaking they all put ours to shame.
When you have certain council people who go out of their way to ambush others, and seek to keep relevant information from them as well, that is where I draw the line. That happens quite frequently on our council, and that is wrong for the citizens of our community. Too often I see council people like Vaslo practice their ambush politics on Murphy & Brady. One only has to attend a couple of council meetings to see the obvious hand signals and face making between Kandes and Vaslo. Other council people have told me, Vaslo plans his ambushes prior to the council meetings, trying to tell them what to say and when to say it.
The other thing that bothers me about the interaction of our council is more often than not, Kandes and Vaslo will not vote for a resolution simply because it was brought forth by Murphy or Brady. K & V despise those two so much, it wouldn't matter how good the resolution, they simply let their hate blind them to the point that they are more often a detriment to the taxpayer. And that's ashame. Kandes for whatever reason has lowered his standards by his close association with Vaslo, and that just may cost him some votes.

I have a question for jujitsu50 . Are you writing Vaslo's campaign literature or were you just put up here to spew the same lies he is spewing?
Thousands of dollars in personal phone calls on her cell bill. What a coincidence, Vaslo is out there saying the same thing. Every one of your posts sounds like sound bytes.
Vaslo just doesn't get it. The people on this site are way too informed to fall for his BS, which happens to be very similar to yours.
Save your rhetoric for Vaslo's campaign literature jujitsu50, It won't work on this site.


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HAHA. I'll be honest. I didn't even read Primo's reply above. But I LOVED how he automatically went into bashing Jujitsu50 for saying things he didn't agree with. Even saying that Jujitsu50 wrote Vaslo's campaign material.

Get a grip, dude. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they are working for certain people. They may just happen to see through your games. Your opinion isn't the only one allowed. You seem to frequently forget that.


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Primo dude you're being a little hard on Jujitsu son, I don't see him really attacking anyone or sticking up for Vaslo, he was just making an observation and asking Mr. Murphy a legitimate question albeit a tough question but a legitimate one..

Of course someone like Vaslo is going to attack Brady for her mis use of a Cell phone which she has admitted to and appologized for mis using, of course no one has steped forward and admitted to being the MORON that obtained such a SH&tty service plan for the City, they should be horse whipped in the town square if we had one. Anyways its all Vaslo has so he has to go with it. I personally think Brady has and will recover from the Cell phone incident and will be re-elected, she is on the ball and on top of things ( which makes her a threat to someone like Vaslo )

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Clearly what HAPPENED TO VAL BRADY WAS WRONG, NOT WHAT SHE DID! She was set up! She was given a very low amount of phone minutes when her cell phone was activated, and not told it was a low plan. As you probably know, she had no idea that her phone bill was going over the limited minute allowance because the council doesn't get an individual break out of the Nextel charges! We get a grand total figure to pay on the accounts and claims. The people who set her up didn't bother to advise her that she was running up big bills, and THEY didn't change the plan to a practical one!


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HAHA. I'll be honest. I didn't even read Primo's reply above. But I LOVED how he automatically went into bashing Jujitsu50 for saying things he didn't agree with. Even saying that Jujitsu50 wrote Vaslo's campaign material.

Get a grip, dude. Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they are working for certain people. They may just happen to see through your games. Your opinion isn't the only one allowed. You seem to frequently forget that.
I would like to see people in here start to disagree without turning it into a personal attack on the one with whom they are in disagreement with.

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Clearly what HAPPENED TO VAL BRADY WAS WRONG, NOT WHAT SHE DID! She was set up! She was given a very low amount of phone minutes when her cell phone was activated, and not told it was a low plan. As you probably know, she had no idea that her phone bill was going over the limited minute allowance because the council doesn't get an individual break out of the Nextel charges! We get a grand total figure to pay on the accounts and claims. The people who set her up didn't bother to advise her that she was running up big bills, and THEY didn't change the plan to a practical one!


So Brown lied about telling Lulko to put Brady on a better plan . Lulko lied about all the plans being the same ,and lied about calls to or from city numbers were free. Val Brady didn't know she was running up a high biil in Jan 2004. After the phones were voted to be eliminated the first of the nonth.


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I do have a grip, and am well aware of Vaslo's gutter politics.
Regarding Jujitsu50, I don't think I attacked him personally. I simply asked the question. If he was sent up by Vaslo, as others have been IMHO, they won't admit it. If they were, that was my way of letting them know someone's paying attention.
As a few have said, and I do agree, my opinion is not the only one.
I have agreed and disagreed with many members, and rarely do I ever take it personally. I'm just speaking my mind, maybe rather harshly at times, but it's because I believe in what I'm saying.
If jujitsu50 is not a surrogate, thats great, but only time and threads will reveal that.
If Vaslo and others had the guts to come on this site as an elected official we wouldn't be having this discussion. But that is not their style. Their style is to try and back-door us.
I enjoy a healthy debate with people that are being honest about their opinions.
As I have said very often, this site is one of the few places that a citizen can come to hear the real truth. Do we get spin, of course we do. Do we have surrogates that are sent up to disrupt this site, yes we do. It happened in the last election, and I'm sure it's happening in this one.
Some of you prefer to shoot the message, and most of the time, I can't deny that is a better way of doing it. I prefer to shoot the messenger.
We all listen to way too much rhetoric & lies at the council meetings from all of the politicians, and read even more of it in the News Herald IMHO. .
While I am not naive enough to think that every thing said on this site is true, there is a much higher percentage of truth on this site, than most of us can get anywhere else. I cherish and appreciate that, and sometimes am quick on the draw when I believe someone has been sent up here to spread lies to all of us, under the guise of giving their opinion. Some on our council treat us as if we are nothing more than part of the ignorant mass, and the News Herald seems perfectly willing to treat us the same way. This site at least has members that have IQs higher than ten. What you read in my threads is not getting mad because someone disagrees with me, its resentment because some I believe, are trying to pick up where the politicians and News Herald leaves off.


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Let's try shooting the message.
Weren't the bills posted on this site demonstrating that Higgins and Brady had different cell plans than the rest of the council ?
Robin, you would know that for sure.
I attended a Public Safety Meeting and sat within earshot of a conversation between Alley and the clerk that did admit to changing Brady's cell plan to match the plans other council people had. In my mind, she had no reason to lie about something as important as that. Yet in Alley's zealousness to make Brady look bad, he failed to mention that important fact in his article.
I wonder why? No I don't.
As I understand it, in the span of many months Brady had less than $70.00 in what could have been personal phone calls. Not thousands as some have mentioned. By the time this election gets in full swing, this ant will grow to the size of an elephant, if it keeps up at it's current pace.
If I thought for a minute that Brady abused her plan, I would be as vocal as some of you seem to be, but only after I checked it out for myself. I have seen and heard enough to conclude that she did not abuse the cell phone. I have no doubts that she is the victim of a well executed set-up. I don't feel for her because I know she was warned something like this would happen, but she didn't listen. I do feel bad that this scam has been perpetrated on all the citizens and we're expected to fall in line and believe it. Well this citizen doesn't even remotely believe it.


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Re: News Herald - Doing their part to influence this election


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Originally Posted by Primo
Let's try shooting the message.
Weren't the bills posted on this site demonstrating that Higgins and Brady had different cell plans than the rest of the council ?
Robin, you would know that for sure.
I believe that her FOIA request for the records were denied, correct me if I am wrong on this


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