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I saw this in a Letter to the Editor today in the News Herald.

Harriet Cole of Allen Park noted the "Communist Rules for Revolution" which were first published in 1919. She noted how these "rules" still apply.

Even though it was over 80 years ago since they were first published, you will notice how these rules still hit home.

1. Corrupt the young. Get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial. Destroy their ruggedness.

2. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays, etc.

3. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matteris of no importance.

4. Destroy the people's faith in natural leader's by holding them up to contempt and ridicule.

5. Always preach true democracy, but seize power as fast and ruthlessly as possible.

6. By encouraging government extravagance, destroy its credit. Produce fear of inflation with rising prices and general discontent.

7. By specious argument, cause the breakdown of the old moral virtues, honesty, sobriety, continence, ruggedness.

8. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view of confiscating them and leaving the population helpless.

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Q: What political ideal does this most closely resemble?
A: Liberal.


Q: What political affiliation do most Liberals claim?
A: Democrat.


Q: What socioeconomic system do most Democrats support?
A: Socialist.


Q: What is a primary component in a Communist government?
A: Socialism.

It's scary how close Socialism correlates to Communism. It is widely believed that if Socialism were to ever collapse Capitalism, the nation would fall to Communism soon thereafter. It is for this reason that I am so vehemently against most liberal agendas. It's not even so much that I'm against Democrats...middle or right wing Dems are okay (for the most part) in my book. It's these left wing liberal nut-job Democrats that I can't stand. The same goes for the ultra neo-right wing Conservatives.

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The Democratic Party and Liberalism is relatively new. Look at the speeches of President Kennedy. For everything you hear that is Left you will also hear something that is Right.

His stance on Communism would give stomach pains to today Democrats.

It started with President Johnson and the giveaway programs. The total change came about during the Vietnam war and the nomination of McGovern for President.

That is when I said Adios to the Democrats. But I could never sign up for the Republicans either.

I now choose the best Candidate, not the Party.


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I choose best candidate as well. It just so happens that most of my ideas for "best candidate" happen to be Republicans. Virtually anyone who is a staunch opposer to Socialism is okay with me.


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The Republicans "best" candidate against Bill Clinton was Bob Dole.

The Democrats "best" candidate in 1988 was Michael Dukakis.

Cream is suppose to rise to the top. But in this case the Party was just leading a lamb to the slaughter


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Sadly, I think it's a game of strategy. A federal game of chess, if you will. In chess, when you know losing a position is eminent...what do you do? Do you put your best piece in harms way? No. You sacrifice a piece that is not as important as others...and you take out as many opponent pieces as you can...while still trying to advance your attack. You save your big pieces for the next attack...when you are in a better position to capitalize on it.

This being said, I have a real hard time believing that John Kerry was the "best" that the Dems could come up with. I tend to buy into the conspiracy theory that the Dems wanted to sacrifice a Democratic opponent in order to allow the Republicans to serve a final term. It's harder to unseat an incumbent than it is it to pit two new candidates against eachother. Bush cannot run in 2008. Knowing this, I believe that the Dems sacrificed a less important piece and put up the best fight they could. While sacrifcing their piece, they systematically tried to destroy the Republican strategy...so that when they bring out the good piece in 2008, it will be more effective. Watch as the Dems bring out the "big guns" with their next presidential candidate.

I believes this last election really served to blast Republicans to the point of absurdity...so that the 2008 election with two new candidates will be an easier battle for the Democrats.

There are popular opinions that the Dems will nominate Hillary Clinton as a presidential candidate in '08. I'm not saying this because she is a woman...but I really hope they can come up with someone better. If they do announce Hillary as a candidate, I'd like to see the Republicans return fire with Condoleeza Rice or someone of equal stature.


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I'm hearing rumor that Vice President Cheney is going to resign due to health reasons, leaving Rice as our Vice President and prepared to run in 2008.

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I'm hearing rumor that Vice President Cheney is going to resign due to health reasons, leaving Rice as our Vice President and prepared to run in 2008.
This rumor can't be true.

The Vice President is the highest-ranking official of the Senate (the President of the Senate). The President Pro Tempore is the second-highest official in the Senate, and takes the place of the Vice President (President of the Senate) in the event that the VP is unable or unwilling to perform their sworn duties. The current President Pro Tempore is Ted Stevens, a Republican Senator from Alaska. If Cheney stepped down, Ted Stevens would become our new Vice President of the United States (and President of the Senate).

After the President Pro Tempore becomes the Vice President (which has never happened in the history of the United States), the Speaker of the House would assume the role of President Pro Tempore. This individual is currently Dennis Hassert, a Republican from Illinois. So again, if Cheney stepped down, Ted Stevens would take his place and Dennis Hassert would assume Ted Stevens' former role.

Condoleeza Rice is an appointed advisor in Bush's administration. She could never take the role of President or Vice President any circumstance...not without being properly elected through a Democratic election process. That would be like saying Steve Duchane could ever assume the role as Mayor of Lincoln Park due to absenses in the chain of command.


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See how rumors get started.


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This rumor can't be true.

The Vice President is the highest-ranking official of the Senate (the President of the Senate). The President Pro Tempore is the second-highest official in the Senate, and takes the place of the Vice President (President of the Senate) in the event that the VP is unable or unwilling to perform their sworn duties. The current President Pro Tempore is Ted Stevens, a Republican Senator from Alaska. If Cheney stepped down, Ted Stevens would become our new Vice President of the United States (and President of the Senate).

After the President Pro Tempore becomes the Vice President (which has never happened in the history of the United States), the Speaker of the House would assume the role of President Pro Tempore. This individual is currently Dennis Hassert, a Republican from Illinois. So again, if Cheney stepped down, Ted Stevens would take his place and Dennis Hassert would assume Ted Stevens' former role.

Condoleeza Rice is an appointed advisor in Bush's administration. She could never take the role of President or Vice President any circumstance...not without being properly elected through a Democratic election process. That would be like saying Steve Duchane could ever assume the role as Mayor of Lincoln Park due to absenses in the chain of command.
In 1973 when Spiro Agnew resigned as vice president, Nixon appointed Gerald Ford to be Agnew's replacement. Ford was a member of the House of Representatives at that time and not the senate.

See section 2 of the 25th amendment:

Section 2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.


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When Vice President Agnew resigned they did not appoint the Secretary of State.as Vice President. They agreed on Congressman Gerald Ford.

When Gerald Ford became President at the resignation of President Nixon, they did not appoint the Secretary of State. They appointed Governor Rockefeller.

History tells us if Vice President Cheney has to resign, the Secretary of State will not necessarily replace him.

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I stand corrected. Apparantly the President can nominate a VP (that must recieve a majority vote by Congress). I assumed that the process was the same...as would occur if the President died in office.


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I have a friend who is a staunch Dem. He is supporting Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana for President. Bayh is a conservative Dem who served as Sec'y of State of Indiana, 2 terms as Governor of Indiana and is on his 2nd term as US Senator. He is barely 50 years old, I think! My friend has given me a lot of info on this guy (as you can see) I think he sounds just "crackerjack" to borrow from Magoo! I just hope it is not Hillary!

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I have a friend who is a staunch Dem. He is supporting Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana for President. Bayh is a conservative Dem who served as Sec'y of State of Indiana, 2 terms as Governor of Indiana and is on his 2nd term as US Senator. He is barely 50 years old, I think! My friend has given me a lot of info on this guy (as you can see) I think he sounds just "crackerjack" to borrow from Magoo! I just hope it is not Hillary!
Sounds like he is a Republican and just doesn't know it.

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doesn't the president have the right to select a new VP if he should deside to resign?


I really do not know the answer to this


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Scoop Jackson, now there is a blast from the past! This Bayh young man is the son of the legendary Birch Bayh the VERY liberal Sen. from Indiana who ultimately lost to Dan Quayle.

Magoo remember the 1976 Presidential Dem primary. Jackson and Bayh were both running! Bayh was the "Last Liberal" left in the race. Birch was much more liberal than his son Evan is.

Remember Carter, who ultimately won, was considered a MODERATE! Funny how Liberal he seems looking in hindsight eh?


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I really do not know the answer to this
This is all spelled out in the 25th amendment to the US Constitution.

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Maybe one of them Liberal Judges re-wrote the rules when we weren't looking. Somebody better start an investigation. Anybody seen Alexander Haig lately .maybe he'll take charge again

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