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In another thread, there was talk about a new fence put up around teh high school. School officials are "smart" enough to think up that, but not smart enough to think it'd be a good idea to keep the kids who set Keppen on fire OUT OF THE SCHOOL!?!?

I couldn't believe what I read today. Those kids who set the fire were allowed to stay in school, while teachers were afraid of what they might do next. I don't get it.

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That's a very decent article. Way to go Jason Alley.

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Did they catch the person that set the fire at Keppen? They owe the taxpayers $3,000,000.

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The article said two boys are charged with setting it. I guess we'll know if they were caught when and if they ever get convicted.


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Re: Fire starters


An 11 and 12 year old cannot be convicted. Legally, Juveniles cannot commit crimes, they can only break civil infractions. Unless they are charged as adults. In this case I doubt that would happen. No one was killed or seriously injured.

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What has an an 11 and 12 year old done in the past that would have adults want anonimity and be that scared . If there is a problem with parental supervision can't they be made wards of the state.

Because they cause d millions in damages and placed lives in danger ,couldn't they be charged .under federal law with a felony. Have they threatened anyone in the past is that why district staff were afraid . Were they after someone in the gym class.


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Another black eye for Lincoln Park.

Hats off to Jason Alley and the News Herald for exposing this and forcing the slow moving school system to take action.

I hope this quiets the critics of Mr Alley.

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I wonder how many families have pulled their children from Keppen school. I know I've done so 2 years ago and my children are doing so much better. It's a shame because I live right around the block from Keppen, making for a very short walk to school. So many of my neighbors have also pulled their kids from either Keppen or the whole LP district altogether. The NH said that the 2 arsonist live in the same building but not together, which means their families are renters. Big surprise. (No offense to the decent families renting here in LP, but if my children were suspended from school, they would not have been able to sneak back there and set the building on fire. They would have been home doing chores so nasty that their fingers would be blistered.)


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If we have staff employed in our District who fear some students . I think we need to offer them a retirement and employee that are capable of dealing with the 11-16 year old Thugs that parents have enrolled in the school system. .The safety of our children in the schools, should be the #1 Priority..


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Re: Fire starters


Shame on Mr. Kite for not knowing. He's the darn superintendent. He should know what's going on. shame on him. borders on incompetence.


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Shame on Mr. Kite for not knowing. He's the darn superintendent. He should know what's going on. shame on him. borders on incompetence.


I'm not sure who is to blame. Is it the superintendent, the school board, the school principal. All have authority, but none seemed to do anything. But with anything else, I guess the ultimate blame lays with the person on top -- Kite.


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i thought the parents were responsable for any damage caused by their minor offspring, cant the school go after the parents in court? sue for damage.


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If the boys end up being punished by the juvenile judge, I would bet that would open up the gate to the parents being sued by the district for their expenses. But if the juvenile judge doesn't find the boys guilty, I'd think it'd be hard for the district to go after their parents.


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OJ was found innocent in a criminal court, but guilty in a civil court


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If they want to treat this like a simple vandalism charge instead of a felony /.arson. Each family should pay restitution at $1.300,000 per family.


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Setting fire to a school reveals deep psychological problems. DEEP psychological problems.

Everyone was involved in silly pranks when they were that age, but this reveals serious problems.

These kids need psychiatric help or they will be in prison as soon as they are old enough to (agewise) legally commit crimes.


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Nice Security System in place!! These boys supposedly "sneaked" into the school UN-NOTICED??? While they were already SUSPENDED??? Very reassuring.


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Re: Fire starters


the buck stops with kite.


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I agree. This is not just a case of a kid with cigarettes in his pocket. This is an arson.

Wouldn't you think that Kite would personally check to see what happened and to sure the kids were out of his school?

And what about the school board. Did they ask the status of the kids and were told they were suspended.

The school system has no communication. And it starts with the School Board refusing to answer questions from the podium.


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Re: Fire starters


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I agree. This is not just a case of a kid with cigarettes in his pocket. This is an arson.

Wouldn't you think that Kite would personally check to see what happened and to sure the kids were out of his school?

And what about the school board. Did they ask the status of the kids and were told they were suspended.

The school system has no communication. And it starts with the School Board refusing to answer questions from the podium.


Seriously, when I read about the fire and the boys in the paper, I could not believe it. They go back and attend school. Those little twits should be spanked and locked up for awhile. Kite should also be spanked and locked up for awhile. Maybe Higgins can shed some light on this "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" situation since he works for the schools. Hey Mike!


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